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New Spanish Templates linked to bottom of page

User: Maurice27 has worked on an exciting project for Spain - a navigation box that will sit at the bottom of the article, and will quickly redirect the reader to the related area. Similar templates are being used in the lower parts of the United States (see eg New York, Florida and California) and Canadian Provinces (see eg Ontario). Some countries have variations (see Japan).

Draft is currently being proposed by Users: Maurice27 is:

{{Spanish Close UP 2}}



Again, this is just a concept concept, and not a content, format or end sequence. We also need to decide what page to use for this template (all pages related to Spain? Only "most important"?)

Please let us know what you think of (1) the use of templates like this, (2) content, formats and orders, and (3) what articles should be forwarded! Espana Viva 08:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC )

While I appreciate Maurice27's efforts, I must say I'm not sure of the utility of a very large template. If that's me I would do is have one with stepping level, ie let's say in the Andalusian article I will have:
when in a Spanish Civil War article I might have:
This keeps the amount of non-content navigation material in a fairly low article. (We are already using the {{Provinces of Spain}} template in the provincial article to do this quite a lot.)
If the consensus here is that we want to use a large template that fits all, I think we need to make sure it has an option to hide (eg using {{Navigation with image}} so that annoyed users can save it - Nick Boalch \ talk 11:03, February 15, 2007 (UTC)
Ok people, let's see what you think about this other...

{{Information about Spain}}

What do you think? Maurice27 17:57, February 15, 2007 (UTC)
Do not forget the fantastic articles of Habsburg Spain and Adam Faanes in the mid-nineteenth century Spain. Albrecht 18:58, February 15, 2007 (UTC)
Done! Ã,;) Maurice27 22:17, February 15, 2007 (UTC)
I would prefer a shorter bottom template, such as taking each part of Maurice and applying it as a template for the article in that class (history, architecture, politics, etc.). A reader who sees the Visigoths does not need to be taken to Spanish phonology, for example. Smaller templates are also easier to maintain (add or remove articles), which is not a small consideration given some disputes around now. Physchim62 (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposal - how to combine multiple titles in this section, presenting a lower profile. For example, having

  • History and Geography
  • Languages, Arts, and Traditions
  • Governance, Politics, and Administrative divisions
  • Territories, Provinces, and Cities

My own view is that one (smallish) template that offers easy access to the most important Spanish related articles in all categories is preferred. Again, I recommend looking at the equivalents of a US State, such as New York or California. Espana Viva 17:07, February 16, 2007 (UTC )


Proposal 2 - In fact, HUGE is only for Spanish articles. That is the perfect gate for everyone to take wherever he wants to; History; Politics... I love the big things to include "everything"

I also agree with Physchim62 that in a particular topic, large templates are not required. The latter can easily be divided into smaller sections as EspanaViva suggested, perhaps adding titles like " History and Geography of Spain not just History and Geography . has all the information on all pages.We can have one part:

{{History of Spain}}



or this navigation box:



{{Test wikispain}}

Let me know what you think to give them a try. Maurice27 21:06, February 16, 2007 (UTC)

The current navbox box in Spain really surprised me. But so is the alternative proposal here, with eight boxes lodged in "Information about Spain". I think the three navboxes are all right - and you can show all three, one above the other, in Spain, while only displaying one by one on another page. The advantage of displaying three smaller templates on the main page, rather than one large template for that page and the page itself, is that it's easier to change a small template than to change small ones and remember to change that big one the changes will appear on the main page of Spain.
One of the smaller templates is "Spanish Geography" (or something like that), which will link to geography, autonomous communities/cities, provinces, and cities. I strongly feel that communities and provinces must have the same template; people who are not familiar with the small things of the Spanish government may not be aware of the differences between the region and the province unless they see separate lists side by side.
Another smaller template is "Spanish Politics and History", based on Nick Boalch's example above, but with political topics being cast; the third is "Culture of Spain," which will capture everything else: language, art, tradition, etc. I recently changed my public holidays in Spain and, as there is nothing better, paste Template: Spanish Close 2 template below; too much for such small articles.
I can do a puncture to make this change if you want. << W W W istah W assap 02:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Gibraltar

Although some aspects of Gibraltar, such as history before 1704 and outdated area claims could be part of this project, Gibraltar itself is not part of Spain over Portugal.

The display of the Spanish flag on anything related to Gibraltar is unacceptable.

--Gibnews 12:00, February 26, 2007 (UTC)

The {{WikiProject Spain}} box does not imply that Gibraltar is part of Spain, only that the Gibraltar article is a Spanish-related topic that may be of interest to participants in this WikiProject. - ??? b Nick Boalch \ talk 19:27, February 26, 2007 (UTC)
We are sensitive to concerns about "over tagging" if it is an article that our members will not be interested in, so I will work with Gibnews to see exactly what the worries are. If this is an article we seem to want to contribute, then I will likely bring the discussion back here for further instructions. Espana Viva 22:10, February 26, 2007 (UTC )

Can I formally ask you to remove Gibraltar from the scope of a Spanish project because Gibraltar is not Spanish, although it would make sense to include an article about the history of Gibraltar and the dispute over sovereignty.

--Gibnews 09:09, March 3, 2007 (UTC)

Dear Gibnews, even if I really understand your concerns about this, I'm sure there is no such problem. I'm not the person who did and/or included the tag, so I can not answer you, but unfortunately, nobody is willing to do " Wikiproject: Articles related to Spanish but not referring to Spanish territory ". And as the tags outlined, Gibraltar does fit in what we might call "Spanish History" and "Spanish Politics". best regards, Maurice27 18:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

By using that criteria, you need to put banners on many pages, but Gibraltar is not Spanish. --Gibnews 22:54, March 19, 2007 (UTC)

I have lost count of how many times I and other contributors have explained to Gibnews that the Spanish WikiProject tag does not in any way imply that Gibraltar is part of Spain. Given that he continues to ignore this simple and rational explanation, I suggest that we confess to engaging in discussions with him on this issue for wasting that time and ignoring it. - ??? b Nick Boalch \ talk 23:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Request to Member Living in Spain

I would like to change the article Battle of Gravelines (1558) to an A-class article (and possibly FA), and luckily Tierra , the Spanish Army publication, has provided the source. However, I am currently studying in San Diego, California, and will not be visiting family in Spain this summer (I have to take calculus classes to get through my majors faster). That means I will not be able to access many sources that will help provide me with information about the topic. American sources do not mention much of the topic, and are generally overshadowed by the Battle of St. Quentin (1557 (another article I will try to turn into A-class articles, and possibly FA).I would appreciate if anyone went to the local library and searched for sources and scanned relevant parts of the book or what you had (plus the cover page and inside where all the book information is held.) This will certainly make things easier for me! Gracias, JonCatalan 22:37, February 26, 2007 (UTC)

This link will be helpful. - FayssalF - Wiki me up Ã,® 15:55, February 27, 2007 (UTC)

Without new discussions, is anyone interested in joining the new Task Force that will be under WikiProject Military History and WikiProject? The topic is only Military History of Spain. I am looking for about 5 interested people. JonCatalan 18:07, February 27, 2007 (UTC)

  • 1 here. I have been the coordinator of the MILHIST project. - FayssalF - Wiki me up Ã,® 12:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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tag Wikiproject

It appears that the bot has added the Spanish Wikiproject tag to the article in the Almohad dynasty category. Some articles with only loose connections to Spain have been flagged like Chellah, Koutoubia Mosque, and Hassan Tower. These places are all in Morocco, and I do not think they should be equated in this Wikiproject. Other articles in this category may have been incorrectly labeled as well.-- Bkwillwm 10:55, February 28, 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and I have removed the WikiProject tags from the three articles. Marking bots through categories is a blunt tool and can cause overtagging like this, but bot operators are certainly sensitive to error reports. - ??? b Nick Boalch \ talk 12:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Proofreaders are required in Spanish translation: Kingdom of Majorca

I recently translated the Majorca Kingdom from the Spanish Wikipedia article, and I need someone to correct it. Native Spanish speakers will help - there are some royal terminology involved, and I'm not sure if I'm right. More info is available here. Thank you in advance! --Logomancer 19:18, February 28, 2007 (UTC)

I may not be the best person to do this, but I'll see it when I get home. Have you ever thought about peer reviews? JonCatalan 19:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought about it, but I mean just to make sure I translate it correctly, not (solely) to improve the quality of the article. The translation project guidelines suggest the relevant WikiProject to be a good start for the proofreader, and I think this is a good place to start. - Logotype 20:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Category: Ice-en translators and Wikipedia: Translations/*/Proofreaders Required. - FayssalF - Wiki me up Ã,® 13:28, March 1, 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia: WikiProject Simple Catalan-language: Spanish and Andorra WikiProject

There is a discussion here about Andorra and wikiproyek - Kimdime69 00:53, March 4, 2007 (UTC)

Reminders that articles can have more than one WikiProject banner, and placing WikiProject banners is not a claim of ownership or control over the content of the article. The banner means that the WikiProject member will have an interest in maintaining/improving the article. Andorra articles, for example, can easily attract French, Spanish and Catalan projects without any problems. Viva 21:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC )
The French WikiProject is also quite thorough in asking for opinions before entering Andorra in its authority. At that time neither WikiProject nor WikiProject Catalonia existed. This is really an argument about nothing - all that needs to be done is to replace the WP: FR tag with the WP tag: CAT and everyone will be happy. Physchim62 (talk) 13:42, March 6, 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia: WikiProject_Military_history/Spanish_military_history_task_force

Wikipedia: WikiProject_Military_history/Spanish_military_history_task_force was created, and is considered a taskforce owned both for WP Military History and WP Spain. JonCatalan 01:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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Proposed WikiProject Project - select an important article for improvement

Now that the first major task includes the WikiProject Spain banner on about 10,000 completed articles, I suggest we decide on the next big WikiProject Project. I propose that we collaboratively try to move the Wikipedia version of 0.5 to the status of the Good article, and/or up to the Featured article.

You may know that WP senior editors have selected the most important articles to include in the CD release. Wikipedia version 0.5 articles related to Spanish are:

  • Spanish - it needs condensation, edits, and can use in-line quotes to raise the rankings
  • Pablo Picasso - probably already GA status; required a small touch; can use an in-line quote to rise in rank
  • Diego VelÃÆ'¡zquez - possibly already GA status or better; can use an in-line quote to rise in rank
  • Miguel de Cervantes - possibly already GA status and FA status close; most need to format clean-up
  • Madrid - possibly at or near the GA status (A-level rating of other WPs); need condensation, formatting clean-up
  • Barcelona - recently derived from GA status; can use an in-line quote to rise in rank
  • Philip II of Spain - possibly at or near the GA status; can use an in-line quote to rise in rank
  • HernÃÆ'¡n CortÃÆ'Â © s - possibly at or near the status of GA; can use an in-line quote to rise in rank
  • Habsburg Spain - is already a featured article
  • The Spanish Succession War - already a featured article

Can we reach an agreement to focus on one or two of these articles at once to polish them? They are all very close to (or already on) GA status, and we can easily start improving this quality. Typically, this article repair task works well with 1-3 main editors, and the rest helps.

Any suggestions/volunteers? Espana Viva 00:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC )

I will help Madrid if someone helps me. I think we need to make Spain a GA as soon as possible. :-) Raystorm 14:47, March 5, 2007 (UTC)
Incredible, thanks Raystorm! Madrid is so close, and Spain gets a good tune-up by some good editors (which I'll invite to officially join here). Another volunteer for these two people (or others from this article)? Espana Viva 15:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC )
I will see what I can do with Barcelona. Physchim62 (talk) 13:44, March 6, 2007 (UTC)

Ã,¡Muy bueno, Physchim62! - see further thoughts below. Espana Viva 17:03, March 6, 2007 (UTC )

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Proposed Collaboration of the Month - Spain, Madrid and Barcelona

Until now, I have looked closer to Spain, Raystorm has been a volunteer for Madrid, and Physchim62 speaks for Barcelona.

Here's my suggestion - Let's ask the WikiProject editor to focus on these three articles to get started with, during March. Instead of "Collaboration of the Week", I recommend "Collaboration of the Month" and spend a month enough to work on these three articles to get them into peer review and GA status in a liquor. We'll come up with the "Collaboration of the Month" section and invite other WikiProject editors to focus on all three. Reaction? Espana Viva 17:06, March 6, 2007 (UTC )

Cool. I need help with references in Madrid, especially for the History section. I need at least one ref per paragraph. If someone can provide some of them (from books or whatever), it will be greatly appreciated. Cheers Raystorm 10:32, March 7, 2007 (UTC)
I will correct the English in Barcelona first, to avoid charges of Pro- or Anti-Catalanism: P Must be done tomorrow. We need a decent piece of history in this article; all please welcome! Physchim62 (talk) 16:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Friends reviews requested for Madrid article

Peer reviews have been asked for Madrid, articles on the Spanish capital, and articles within the sphere of Spanish WikiProject. Please edit the Madrid article to correct it and/or leave a comment on Wikipedia: Peer_review # Madrid. Espana Viva 18:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC )

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Bullfight

I want to remind everyone that bullfight for FARC. If anyone is interested in finding references to the article to avoid deletion as the FA, they should comment on the FARC. Cheers Raystorm 14:53, March 9, 2007 (UTC)

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Help needed: ÃÆ' lvaro de Luna

Please see Talk: ÃÆ' lvaro de Luna # Santiago Sevilla. There is the possibility of a vanity problem about the game that has been linked. I suspect that native speakers of Spanish, better than Spanish, will have a better chance than me to solve this problem correctly. - Jmabel | Speak 19:23, March 11, 2007 (UTC)

It's been three weeks, and no one has commented on this. Please, this can really use a knowledgable intervention. - Jmabel | Talk 04:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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Madrid Peer review - help requested

A colleague's review of the Madrid article has yielded some very helpful and important suggestions for improving the article. If you are interested in improving this main article, please see the comments posted on the Peer review page, here. Espana Viva 03:01, March 15, 2007 (UTC )


I added the Geography section (with fauna and flora) to the article. Also, some comments are made on the article talk page to improve it. Maurice27 21:37, March 19, 2007 (UTC)

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Sorolla

I recently completed the extension of Joaquín Sorolla y Bastida, which may well qualify for ratings. Thanks, JNW 04:48, April 4, 2007 (UTC)

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Symbol of Spain

I have recently completed the expansion of the Spanish Symbol, which may require an assessment judgment. thanks. --Maurice27 19:47, April 6, 2007 (UTC)

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Help with Doussinague

Hi. Can someone from the project fix the Doussinague article? This is actually about JosÃÆ'Â © Maria Doussinague y Teixidor (I think) which, according to the article, was once the Spanish ambassador to Chile and part of the Franco government. However, I can only find sources in Spanish and the article is in dire need of cleaning and referencing. (This is also not categorized but now, I think that's a pretty secondary concern!) Thanks, Pascal.Tesson 02:26, ​​April 8, 2007 (UTC)

Finished, though it could use more work, especially finding and entering certain years for its posts (and its death!). - ??? b Nick Boalch \ talk 08:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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Discussion of bilateral relations

I would like to invite all of you to participate in discussions in this thread on bilateral relations between the two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now within the scope of WikiProject, a newly created project. We hope the discussion will result in a cleaner and more organized way to explain such relationships. thanks. Ed ¿CÃÆ'³mo estÃÆ'¡s? 18:49, April 8, 2007 (UTC)

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List of political parties registered in Spain

This page (entirely 242k) to be removed here. My own view is clear, but all comments will be accepted on the deletion discussion. Physchim62 (talk) 10:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Spanish article length is 66 kilobytes

As with messages submitted while editing, it may be appropriate to divide this article into smaller and more specific articles. View Wikipedia: Size of article. We have to start removing or reducing some parts.

We can start with a section with their own main article. Any idea? --Maurice27 15:21, April 19, 2007 (UTC)


Latin culture

Hello all! You may want to go to Latin culture to participate in articles and discussions. There are many disputed statements... The Ogre 12:27, April 20, 2007 (UTC)


Promotes heraldic and vexillologycal Spanish related articles

Spanish flag heraldry Spanish Let me know what you think, --Maurice27 17:14, April 20, 2007 (UTC)


Dante Alighieri Society

This community talk page says that you have been tagged by you for improvement, which is beautiful, but you know that society is about promoting Italy and Italy? Nick mallory 08:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have removed the tag because it is definitely not appropriate for the article. The articles are marked by bots based on the category system, which means sometimes gets a bit too excited. - ??? b Nick Boalch \ talk 08:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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